Posted by: =ram1=

Posted on: 09:22:44 11/06/98

Message:

With all the talk about warp rolling etc., I think it might be beneficial to describe how I teach pilots defensive maneuvers in the training arena.

1. I tell them there are 3 basic moves. Scissors, Barrel Roll, and Split-S.

2. Then I demonstrate each move to them by having them follow me with my smoke turned on.

3. We then discuss under what situations to use each technique, and how by combining techniques you can create an infinite variety of defensive moves.

Sometimes we get into specifics, and to be honest I always tell them that the most effective counter move is probably the rolling scissors (scissors combined with barrel rolls).

The point is many new pilots have no clue about "warp rolls", they are just doing what they can to avoid the situation. It's not the pilots fault that there are internet lags, or the smoothing code is not quite perfect, or a planes roll model may be off. You can't expect a pilot to fly straight and just let you shoot him now can you? :)

Anyway, just thought you guys might be interested in how I, and I assume other trainers, attempt to teach defensive moves to new and some experienced players as well. So if you are seeing more guys using these defensive techniques, then I guess I feel good the message is getting through.

I know when I am on someone's 6 and they are employing these moves and I see warps, its better to just let them go and find someone else to sneak up on so you get a good clean shot.

=ram1= XO 901st Immortals

Posted by: Bugjam - VMF-58 Wildcards

Posted on: 09:36:53 11/06/98

Message:

: The point is many new pilots have no clue about "warp rolls", they are just doing what they can to avoid the situation. It's not the pilots fault that there are internet lags, or the smoothing code is not quite perfect, or a planes roll model may be off. You can't expect a pilot to fly straight and just let you shoot him now can you? :)

Only one thing I can to this is that can somebody tell me how to survive in a 190 if you have a Spit in your 6 and you are flying 100ft. above sea level??? Real 190 pilots probably did rolling scissors (=warp rolls) but if they are prohibited in WB what is the thing to do?

Posted by: DocDoom

Posted on: 09:48:23 11/06/98

Message:

: Only one thing I can to this is that can somebody tell me how to survive in a 190 if you have a Spit in your 6 and you are flying 100ft. above sea level??? Real 190 pilots probably did rolling scissors (=warp rolls) but if they are prohibited in WB what is the thing to do?

Scissor him, it's your only chance if he's within d6 and you're not at full speed. Even then, if he's any good, he'll kill you, but if you have already lost the drag race (by getting too slow) there isn't anything left to try ;)

And sometimes, it even works !

Doc.