Posted by: Dekker *401 Rams*

Message: : Depending on the plane you are flying, and its vertical flight envelope, and ability to sustain the climb to stall, it is not that difficult, and just takes a bit of practice. It also takes a higher degree of awareness of your opponents abilities.

: The thing to remember is the fact that all flight surfaces are load bearing now, and flaps wont deploy above a certain speed. To pull a sort of advanced hammerhead, pull up to the vertical, near 90 degrees perpendicular from the ground, follow this course till your speed drops below your flap deployment speed. As you approach stall, pop the flaps, hit either left or right rudder to follow the torque of your engine to spin, and pull the stick backwards and to the direction of the torque. In most planes this is to the back and to the left. Once you spin around make SURE to pop the flaps back up or they will create too much drag to gain energy.

: The problem with this manuever is the fact that it does eat up most of your energy, the benefits are that sometimes and with practice you may find yourself in a shoot situation real quick on that guy on your six.

: Never attempt this manuever against a fighter that has better vertical characteristics than your a/c.

: Example is yak-3 against any spit, the yak may perform this manuever pretty much as his energy dictates, and will outclimb and hold stall longer than the spit, allowing for this hammerhead then a top down shoot on the spit. The spit trying to perform this manuever just makes an easy target at the top of the manuever, since his lateral speed is nil, and the Yak can sustain the stall longer, he will get a good shot at the spit.

: Hope this helps.

: Chaz

: CO Red Falcons

: Dasvidanya Tovarischii

Why do you pop flaps in the hammerhead?

If you wanted to do a flick turn to Rope-A-Dope wouldn't you let yourself hang and stall out as long as possible, so that the bogie behind you stalls out before you do?

Then you get on his six?

I read others that said push stick forward at the top, others that say leave it be and let her stall.

Is the difference in the precision/control of the turn?

Kick the rudder at the top to tell the direction of the stall, what about your engine torque, don't you put your throttle to zero so you don't roll the plane at the top?

Perhaps a Hammerhead in the airshow sense rotates powered about the lower wingtip, while the flick turn, Rope-A-Dope idea just stalls and flick down?

Thoughts?

Dekr

Posted by: -deft-

Message: RF tactics manual entry:

(http://webusers.anet-stl.com/~inept/redfalcons/Tactics/vertinvert.html

(YAK 3)

-deft-

Posted by: -beaz- {CO 249 Sqn RAF}

Message: : Why do you pop flaps in the hammerhead?

I've used that from time to time to get a quicker more controlled gun solution on the guy behind. Poping the flaps after a merge at the top of an Immel, I think tends to bring your nose over quicker and therefore gives you more chance for a better guns solution quicker... it's debatable... there are pro's and con's to doing this.. I tend to do this alot in the Hurricane IIc because of the split position flaps and the firepower... all you need to do is connect with one round of 20mm and you can do some serious harm :)

Regards

Daren

-beaz- {CO 249 Sqn RAF}

Posted by: P/O Gazoo, RCAF 401 Rams

Message: One of my thoughts would be that you can soften the stall characteristis by deploying the flaps to insure the inboard wing stalls first, thus giving a stall with less roll tendancy.

(Just a thought, not based on any fact.)

P/O Gazoo, 401 Sqdn. RCAF "Rams"

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