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Index
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Before:
Catalog of Irish Coins of Henry
III 1251-1254 |
After :
Catalog of Edward III and Henry
VI 1339 & 1425 |
Reference :
© 2001
- Copyright
John_Stafford-Langan
Version
1.08b
10 July, 2001
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The
Irish pennies of Edward I divide into three main groups:
For more details on the
history of this period of the Irish coinage select the
relevant reference section on the side bar <---- or
follow the links from the main page for a more structured
approach to the history of the coinage.
The halfpennies divide
into similar groups but the easy-to-identify-with pellets
are not present so other differences need to be examined.
All farthings appear to belong to the 1280 issues.
There are a number of
varieties listed in older catalogs - oblong pellet below
bust etc - these coins are now accepted to be
contemporaty European copies rather than Irish issues.
Several other minor
varieties exist which are more probably mint or die
errors rather than distinct issues (eg a second issue
coin with a rectangular symbol below the bust made from
two pellets being punched badly and the die breaking to
join them together). There is one variety of this type, a
coin with no pellet below the bust, which appears to be
an ommission on the die which I have listed as it is a
distinct variety (illustrated).
These coins all have a
value derived from a combination of the value of the
underlying type and their own scarceness - curiously the
anomolous pieces which are already listed in catalogs
command better prices than those not listed because
collectors tend to collect the varieties listed in their
catalogs despite the fact the the unlisted ones are often
scarcer.
Again as a general rule
the smaller coins are worth less than a similarly scarce
larger coin because collectors are less interested in
acquiring the smaller coins and especially in collecting
all the halfpenny and farthing varieties. There are sub
varieties within the halfpennies and farthings which
would warrant seperate listings if they were pennies but
are grouped together in the smaller denominations - over
time I will be breaking these tables out to show these
minor varieties of the smaller coins. Unfortunately as
there is no auction history for these pieces the values
are even more a matter of opinion than the existing
listings where there is some history of sales and dealers
lists to refer to.
Recent changes in pricing
and newly listed varieties are priced in bold text.
These coins are priced in
Euros - (not in dollars and not in Irish pounds)
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First
coinage (in the name of Henry III) 1276
This coinage is
effectively a continuation of the coinage of Henry III in
Ireland (The Irish Coinage of Henry III,
1251 - 1254).
These coins are all rare.
There are two varieties,
the key difference being the use of a Roman 'V' or a
Lombardic 'U' in the legend.
These coins are very
similar to the Irish pennies of Henry III of the moneyer
RICARD. Many coins presented as being of this type are
just normal pennies of Henry III or contemporary European
copies of the Henry III coins.
The distinguishing
features are the more naturalistic treatment of the hair,
on some coins the 'U' and a clear pellet in the middle of
the cinquefoil to the right of the king.
Any coin suspected of
being of this type should be shown to an expert in the
series for verification of the identification and for
comparison with the known dies.
The estimated population
of these pieces is about 8 coins. Two of these coins were
sold in 1999. It is unlikely that two will appear in the
same year again of some time. One of these was bought by
the National Museum of Ireland, the other is still in
private hands.
First
coinage (in the name of Henry III) 1276
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Prices in
Euros
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A Richard Olof Penny of Edward I, 1276
Type I - Lombardic 'U' in legend
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PENNY
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Good |
Fine |
Very Fine |
Ex. Fine |
Scarcity |
Dowle
& Finn |
Coincraft |
Seaby |
Type I
Lombardic 'U' in legends |
300.00 |
800.00 |
1,800.00 |
3,200.00 |
very rare
< 10 coins |
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6245 |
Type II
Roman 'V' in legends |
300.00 |
750.00 |
1,700.00 |
3,000.00 |
very rare
< 10 coins |
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6244 |
The recoinage of 1280
The pennies of the first
three issues all have a trefoil of pellets on the breast.
The topmost pellet is
often hidden in the collar of the bust .
The halfpennies and
farthings are not as clearly identified other than by
association with the pennies by lettering styles and bust
design.
The lettering all all
these coins is large and squareish in shape.
The
recoinage of 1280
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Prices in
Euros
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P E N
N I E S
DUBLIN & WATERFORD
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Good |
Fine |
Very Fine |
Ex. Fine |
Scarcity |
Dowle
& Finn |
Coincraft |
Seaby |
First Issue
Penny - Dublin
Trefoil of pellets on breast.
No symbol before EDW
Roman 'N' on reverse |
8.00 |
20.00 |
60.00 |
120.00 |
common |
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6246 - Ia |
A penny of Edward I of Dublin (second issue)
Type Ib, Dublin, pellet before e, trefoil on
breast, Roman N on reverse
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Good |
Fine |
Very Fine |
Ex. Fine |
Scarcity |
Dowle
& Finn |
Coincraft |
Seaby |
Second Issue
Penny - Dublin
Trefoil of pellets on breast.
Pellet before EDW
Roman 'N' on reverse
No symbol before C on reverse |
6.00 |
15.00 |
40.00 |
100.00 |
very common |
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6247 - Ib |
Second Issue
Penny - Dublin
Trefoil of pellets on breast.
Pellet before EDW
Roman 'N' on reverse
Colon : before C on reverse |
15.00 |
40.00 |
80.00 |
175.00 |
scarce |
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Edward I penny - Dublin - no pellet below bust
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Second Issue
Penny - Dublin
No pellet on breast.
Pellet before EDW
Roman 'N' on reverse |
20.00 |
50.00 |
100.00 |
200.00 |
very scarce |
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Second Issue
Penny - Waterford
Trefoil of pellets on breast.
Pellet before EDW |
7.00 |
18.00 |
50.00 |
110.00 |
common |
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6254 - Ib |
An Edward I Irish penny of
1283 (third issue)
Dublin, + before EDW, trefoil on breast,
Lombardic 'n' on reverse
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Good |
Fine |
Very Fine |
Ex. Fine |
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Dowle
& Finn |
Coincraft |
Seaby |
Third Issue
Penny - Dublin
Trefoil of pellets on breast
+ before EDW
Lombardic 'n' on reverse |
10.00 |
25.00 |
70.00 |
150.00 |
scarce |
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6248 - Ic |
Third Issue/Second Issue mule
Penny - Dublin
Trefoil of pellets on breast
+ before EDW
Roman 'N' on reverse |
7.00 |
18.00 |
50.00 |
110.00 |
scarce |
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Second Issue / Third Issue mule
Penny - Dublin
Trefoil of pellets on breast
pellet before EDW
Lombardic 'n' on reverse |
8.00 |
20.00 |
60.00 |
120.00 |
not scarce
but
not common |
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H A L
F P E N N I E S
DUBLIN & WATERFORD
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Good |
Fine |
Very Fine |
Ex. Fine |
Scarcity |
Dowle
& Finn |
Coincraft |
Seaby |
First / Second Issue
Halfpenny - Dublin
Large lettering
No pellet before curved backed E |
20.00 |
60.00 |
160.00 |
300.00 |
scarce |
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6257 |
A Halfpenny of Edward I of Dublin (second issue)
Large lettering, pellet before curved back E
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First / Second Issue
Halfpenny - Dublin
Large lettering
Pellet before curved
backed E |
18.00 |
50.00 |
140.00 |
250.00 |
scarce |
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6258 |
Third Issue
Halfpenny - Dublin
Large lettering
Pellet before straight
backed E |
25.00 |
80.00 |
200.00 |
400.00 |
very scarce |
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6259 |
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Good |
Fine |
Very Fine |
Ex. Fine |
Scarcity |
Dowle
& Finn |
Coincraft |
Seaby |
First / Second Issue
Halfpenny - Waterford
Large lettering
No pellet before curved backed E
Mint name begins with W |
20.00 |
70.00 |
180.00 |
350.00 |
scarce |
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6263 |
First / Second Issue
Halfpenny - Waterford
Large lettering
No pellet before curved backed E
Mint name begins with V |
20.00 |
70.00 |
180.00 |
350.00 |
scarce |
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- |
First / Second Issue
Halfpenny - Waterford
Large lettering
Pellet before curved backed E
Mint name begins with W |
20.00 |
70.00 |
180.00 |
350.00 |
scarce |
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6264 |
First / Second Issue
Halfpenny - Waterford
Large lettering
Pellet before curved backed E
Mint name begins with V |
20.00 |
70.00 |
180.00 |
350.00 |
scarce |
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F A R
T H I N G S
DUBLIN & WATERFORD
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A Farthing of Edward I of Dublin (first/second
issue)
ERA NG LIE legend
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Good |
Fine |
Very Fine |
Ex. Fine |
Scarcity |
Dowle
& Finn |
Coincraft |
Seaby |
First Issue
Farthing - Dublin
ERA / NG / LIE legend
Very large bust of 'early' style |
60.00 |
200.00 |
450.00 |
800.000 |
very rare |
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First / Second Issue
Farthing - Dublin
ERA / NG / LIE legend |
40.00 |
120.00 |
240.00 |
500.00 |
scarce |
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6267 |
First / Second Issue
Farthing - Dublin
ER / ANG / LIE |
50.00 |
180.00 |
400.00 |
700.00 |
very rare |
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First / Second Issue
Farthing - Dublin
EDWARDUS REX legend |
100.00 |
300.00 |
700.00 |
1,000.00 |
very rare |
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6267A |
Second Issue
Farthing - Waterford
ERA NG LIE legend
Mint name begins with W |
50.00 |
140.00 |
280.00 |
600.00 |
scarce |
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6268 |
Second Issue
Farthing - Waterford
ERA NG LIE legend
Mint name begins with V |
50.00 |
140.00 |
280.00 |
600.00 |
scarce |
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The issues of 1294-1302
The pennies of the final
three issues do not have a trefoil of pellets on the
breast - they either have one pellet or they have a rose.
The halfpennies are not
as clearly identified other than by associaton with the
pennies by lettering styles and bust design. The
lettering on most of thes coins is smaller and rounded in
shape.
There are no farthings
allocated to this period, but it is proable that some
were produced. The characteristics of the existing pieces
does not allow them to be readily divided between this
group and the earlier one.
As a general rule the
sixth issue is quite common, but is relatively more
difficult to find in higher grades than the first three
issues. All the fourth and fifth issues coins are either
scarce or rare in any condition.
The Cork pieces are
valued more highly than their scarcity because this is
the only issue from Cork whereas there are common issues
available from Dublin and Waterford for collectors who
only want an example of each mint.
The
issues of 1294-1302
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Prices in
Euros
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P E N
N I E S
DUBLIN, WATERFORD & CORK
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Good |
Fine |
Very Fine |
Ex. Fine |
Scarcity |
Dowle
& Finn |
Coincraft |
Seaby |
Fourth Issue
Penny - Dublin
Rosette on breast. |
150.00 |
300.00 |
700.00 |
1,200.00 |
very rare
< 10 coins |
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6249 |
Fourth Issue
Penny - Waterford
Rosette on breast. |
120.00 |
250.00 |
600.00 |
1,000.00 |
rare |
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6255 |
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Good |
Fine |
Very Fine |
Ex. Fine |
Scarcity |
Dowle
& Finn |
Coincraft |
Seaby |
Fifth Issue
Penny - Dublin
Single pellet in each angle of triangle |
150.00 |
300.00 |
800.00 |
1,300.00 |
very rare
< 10 coins |
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6250 |
Fifth Issue
Penny - Cork
Single pellet in each angle of triangle |
100.00 |
200.00 |
500.00 |
900.00 |
scarce |
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6256 |
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Good |
Fine |
Very Fine |
Ex. Fine |
Scarcity |
Dowle
& Finn |
Coincraft |
Seaby |
Sixth Issue
Penny - Dublin
Single pellet
on breast.
Small lettering on Obverse
Large lettering on Reverse
No symbol
before Edw |
8.00 |
20.00 |
60.00 |
140.00 |
common,
but scarce
in better grades |
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6251 |
Sixth Issue
Penny - Dublin
Single pellet
on breast.
Small lettering on Obverse
Large lettering on Reverse
Pellet before Edw |
10.00 |
25.00 |
70.00 |
175.00 |
common,
but scarce
in better grades |
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6252 |
Sixth Issue
Penny - Dublin
Single pellet
on breast.
Small lettering on Obverse
Small lettering on Reverse
No symbol
before Edw |
10.00 |
25.00 |
70.00 |
175.00 |
common,
but scarce
in better grades |
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6253 |
Sixth Issue
Penny - Dublin
Single pellet
on breast.
Small lettering on Obverse
Small lettering on Reverse
Pellet before Edw |
10.00 |
25.00 |
70.00 |
175.00 |
common,
but scarce
in better grades |
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H A L
F P E N N I E S
DUBLIN, WATERFORD & CORK
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Good |
Fine |
Very Fine |
Ex. Fine |
Scarcity |
Dowle
& Finn |
Coincraft |
Seaby |
Fourth Issue
Halfpenny - Dublin
Rosette on breast. |
150.00 |
400.00 |
800.00 |
1600.00 |
very rare
< 5 coins |
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6260 |
Fourth Issue
Halfpenny - Waterford
Rosette on breast. |
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exists ? |
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Good |
Fine |
Very Fine |
Ex. Fine |
Scarcity |
Dowle
& Finn |
Coincraft |
Seaby |
Fourth / Fifth Issue ?
Halfpenny - Waterford
Small lettering
(Most Waterford Halfpennies
are more common second issue coins) |
100.00 |
200.00 |
500.00 |
900.00 |
very rare
< 10 coins |
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6265 |
Fifth Issue
Halfpenny - Cork
Small lettering |
180.00 |
400.00 |
800.00 |
1,400.00 |
very rare
< 10 coins |
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6266 |
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Good |
Fine |
Very Fine |
Ex. Fine |
Scarcity |
Dowle
& Finn |
Coincraft |
Seaby |
Sixth Issue
Halfpenny - Dublin
Small lettering
Pellet below bust |
25.00 |
80.00 |
200.00 |
400.00 |
scarce,
rare in
better grades |
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6259 |
Sixth Issue
Halfpenny - Dublin
Small lettering
No Pellet below bust |
20.00 |
70.00 |
180.00 |
350.00 |
scarce,
rare in
better grades |
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